Ability to ban ML people
Ability to ban ML people
Some people on mailing list (most notably Paul Johnson)don't get that forum works different. Please block their replies or remove them completely from the ML and forum.
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Paul Johnson
Ability to ban ML people
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On Monday 24 March 2008 03:48:31 pm vitamin wrote:
wrong. A lot of the complaints with the forum to list gateway would go away
if the forums required quoting, and the gateway itself provided an accurate
References header.
It's not impossible to get this right: Non-usenet Google Groups are great
exmaples of forums working with mailing lists harmoniously. Why the
prevailing opinion here is to ban or run off anybody who suggests that fixing
a pervasive bug is the right thing to do only serves to harm the project.
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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On Monday 24 March 2008 03:48:31 pm vitamin wrote:
Perhaps it's best to fix the problem instead of suggesting the users areSome people on mailing list (most notably Paul Johnson)don't get that forum
works different. Please block their replies or remove them completely from
the ML and forum.
wrong. A lot of the complaints with the forum to list gateway would go away
if the forums required quoting, and the gateway itself provided an accurate
References header.
It's not impossible to get this right: Non-usenet Google Groups are great
exmaples of forums working with mailing lists harmoniously. Why the
prevailing opinion here is to ban or run off anybody who suggests that fixing
a pervasive bug is the right thing to do only serves to harm the project.
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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Paul and I have been discussing his behavior offline. He has already been warned.
Vitamin (and everyone else), please do not create threads to complain about other users. If you have a complaint, please private message me. In your complaint, link to the threads where the offense took place.
Banning Policy will be as follows:
A valid complaint filed will result in a warning. A second complaint in 30 days will result in a 30 day ban. After your month, if another complaint is filed against you, you will receive a permanent ban.
As far as the breaking of threads goes, I will look into it. I don't want to see anymore complaints to forum users about it. It is not their fault. If you want to complain to someone, complain to me.
Vitamin (and everyone else), please do not create threads to complain about other users. If you have a complaint, please private message me. In your complaint, link to the threads where the offense took place.
Banning Policy will be as follows:
A valid complaint filed will result in a warning. A second complaint in 30 days will result in a 30 day ban. After your month, if another complaint is filed against you, you will receive a permanent ban.
As far as the breaking of threads goes, I will look into it. I don't want to see anymore complaints to forum users about it. It is not their fault. If you want to complain to someone, complain to me.
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Paul Johnson
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On Monday 24 March 2008 04:59:44 pm jnewman wrote:
while we're at it, please.
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Paul Johnson
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On Monday 24 March 2008 04:59:44 pm jnewman wrote:
Let's make sure the From: line problem and the quoting problem is also fixedPaul and I have been discussing his behavior offline. He has already been
warned.
Vitamin (and everyone else), please do not create threads to complain about
other users. If you have a complaint, please private message me. In your
complaint, link to the threads where the offense took place.
Banning Policy will be as follows:
A valid complaint filed will result in a warning. A second complaint in 30
days will result in a 30 day ban. After your month, if another complaint is
filed against you, you will receive a permanent ban.
As far as the breaking of threads goes, I will look into it. I don't want
to see anymore complaints to forum users about it. It is not their fault.
If you want to complain to someone, complain to me.
while we're at it, please.
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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Re: Ability to ban ML people
My understanding is the generic email used by forums cannot easily be fixed. Mailman expect the email used to be a subscriber in order to post. The forum posts to mailman using a generic email to get by this limitation. One way around this would to make some kind of mechanism that subscribes each forum poster to mailman. This is a can of worms that is not worth the effort IMO.Paul Johnson wrote:Let's make sure the From: line problem and the quoting problem is also fixed while we're at it, please.
The quoting thing I will check into. I imagine it might already be fixed in the mail2forum tip, as I'm sure other boards have run into the same issue.
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Ove Kaaven
Ability to ban ML people
vitamin skrev:
"vitamin" from the forums. From what I've seen of his conduct so far,
he's arrogant, rude to newbies and experienced people alike,
confrontational and likes to flame people, and also fairly ignorant and
have many times spread incorrect information about Linux and Wine, while
in a condescending manner pretended they're facts. He shouldn't be
allowed to keep going like this.
So is your opinion then that this kind of behaviour is how forums should
work? If so, then these forums really *are* a bad idea.
If we're going to point fingers anyway, I suggest banning someone calledSome people on mailing list (most notably Paul Johnson)don't get that forum works different.
"vitamin" from the forums. From what I've seen of his conduct so far,
he's arrogant, rude to newbies and experienced people alike,
confrontational and likes to flame people, and also fairly ignorant and
have many times spread incorrect information about Linux and Wine, while
in a condescending manner pretended they're facts. He shouldn't be
allowed to keep going like this.
So is your opinion then that this kind of behaviour is how forums should
work? If so, then these forums really *are* a bad idea.
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Paul Johnson
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On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:17:03 am Ove Kaaven wrote:
outright wrong.
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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On Tuesday 25 March 2008 01:17:03 am Ove Kaaven wrote:
I'm with Ove on this. I may word things strongly, but at least I'm notvitamin skrev:If we're going to point fingers anyway, I suggest banning someone calledSome people on mailing list (most notably Paul Johnson)don't get that
forum works different.
"vitamin" from the forums. From what I've seen of his conduct so far,
he's arrogant, rude to newbies and experienced people alike,
confrontational and likes to flame people, and also fairly ignorant and
have many times spread incorrect information about Linux and Wine, while
in a condescending manner pretended they're facts. He shouldn't be
allowed to keep going like this.
So is your opinion then that this kind of behaviour is how forums should
work? If so, then these forums really *are* a bad idea.
outright wrong.
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Paul Johnson
[email protected]
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Re: Ability to ban ML people
Facts please!Ove Kaaven wrote:have many times spread incorrect information about Linux and Wine
Ability to ban ML people
On Tuesday March 25 2008 08:17:03 Ove Kaaven wrote:
about Linux or WINE. Please don't do such statements about anybody without
quotes and explanations. And anyway, discussing such topics on forum or
mailing list *isn't* good idea, really.
I suggest to stop this discussion on ML or forum.
Let's agree on following rules to resolve personal conflicts:
Banning policy, etc. was already posted by jnewman and I agree with him. But
I think following additional guidelines are useful too:
If someone consider behavior of an ordinary user as unacceptable it is good
idea to contact with that user privately first. If this doesn't help -
contact with either moderator or site admin privately.
If someone consider behavior of a moderator not acceptable, you should try
contact with this moderator privately and if this doesn't help - contact with
site admin (jnewman) to resolve any conflicts/problems.
I'm closing this thread on the forum because any farther discussions in it
may result in farther personal attacks/conflicts.
If someone want to say more in this thread (on mailing list or forum -
doesn't matter) please follow above guidelines to resolve any remaining
personal conflicts *privately* - either with moderator or site admin, if
necessary. Thanks.
I'm sorry, but I don't remember that vitamin have posted wrong informationvitamin skrev:If we're going to point fingers anyway, I suggest banning someone calledSome people on mailing list (most notably Paul Johnson)don't get that
forum works different.
"vitamin" from the forums.
...
have many times spread incorrect information about Linux and Wine
about Linux or WINE. Please don't do such statements about anybody without
quotes and explanations. And anyway, discussing such topics on forum or
mailing list *isn't* good idea, really.
I suggest to stop this discussion on ML or forum.
Let's agree on following rules to resolve personal conflicts:
Banning policy, etc. was already posted by jnewman and I agree with him. But
I think following additional guidelines are useful too:
If someone consider behavior of an ordinary user as unacceptable it is good
idea to contact with that user privately first. If this doesn't help -
contact with either moderator or site admin privately.
If someone consider behavior of a moderator not acceptable, you should try
contact with this moderator privately and if this doesn't help - contact with
site admin (jnewman) to resolve any conflicts/problems.
I'm closing this thread on the forum because any farther discussions in it
may result in farther personal attacks/conflicts.
If someone want to say more in this thread (on mailing list or forum -
doesn't matter) please follow above guidelines to resolve any remaining
personal conflicts *privately* - either with moderator or site admin, if
necessary. Thanks.
