World Of Warcraft perfomance problem.

Soccus · Post by **Soccus** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:20 am

Hello. I'm running WoW 2.3.3, my wine version is wine-0.9.56.
My PC: 512 ram, Athlon 300+ and ATI radeon 600x.
Problem: 4pfs under Arch Linux and up to 12 under Ubuntu.

Drivers: Fglrx (catalyst-8.3-1)
Rendering: Yes

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glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
fglrxinfo
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X600/X550 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.7412 Release

My xorg.conf:

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Section "Module"
	Load		"glx"
	Load		"dri"
	Load		"drm"
EndSection


Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"kbd"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"pl"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/mice"
	Option		"Protocol"	"ImPS/2"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"	"4 5"
	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600]"
	Driver		"fglrx"
	Busid		"PCI:1:0:0"
	Option		"XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"	"true"
	Option		"AGPMode" "4"
	Option		"ColorTiling" "on"
	Option 		"AccelMethod" "EXA"
	
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Group 		"video"
	Mode		0660
Endsection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"SyncMaster"
	Option		"DPMS"
	Horizsync	30-70
	Vertrefresh	50-160
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600]"
	Monitor		"SyncMaster"
	Defaultdepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Modes		"1280x1024"	"1152x864"	"1024x768"	"800x600"	"640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
  screen "Default Screen"
	Inputdevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	Inputdevice	"Configured Mouse"
	
	# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
	#	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents"
	#	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"
	#	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents"
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
	Option		"Composite"	"Disabled"
EndSection

Wine log:

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[root@soc-pc soc]# wine /mnt/sdb5/wow/Wow.exe -opengl
fixme:spoolsv:serv_main (0 (nil))
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on MPU-401 UART, disabling mixer
fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1 func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1 func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1 func=0 method=0)
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 1, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:ntdll:NtPowerInformation Unimplemented NtPowerInformation action: 11
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 0, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ed84,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ec8c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f2a8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f40c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f588,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f580,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f508,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f4f8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33efe0,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f124,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT (5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT not supported on protocol 4
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT (5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT not supported on protocol 4
fixme:reg:GetNativeSystemInfo (0x374027e4) using GetSystemInfo()
fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x728873e4) stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE; STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE; STUB
fixme:imm:ImmAssociateContextEx (0x20024, (nil), 16): stub
[root@soc-pc soc]#

My WoW's Config.wtf

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SET locale "enUS"
SET coresDetected "1"
SET hwDetect "0"
SET gxColorBits "24"
SET gxDepthBits "24"
SET gxResolution "1280x1024"
SET gxRefresh "60"
SET gxMultisampleQuality "0.000000"
SET gxFixLag "0"
SET videoOptionsVersion "1"
SET movie "0"
SET expansionMovie "0"
SET showToolsUI "1"
SET Sound_OutputDriverName "System Default"
SET realmList "wow.bloodworld.eu"
SET SmallCull "0.070000"
SET DistCull "450.000000"
SET farclip "297"
SET particleDensity "0.900000"
SET spellEffectLevel "0"
SET textureFilteringMode "0"
SET mouseSpeed "0.5"
SET Gamma "1.000000"
SET readTOS "1"
SET readEULA "1"
SET Sound_VoiceChatInputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_VoiceChatOutputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_MasterVolume "1"
SET Sound_SFXVolume "1"
SET Sound_MusicVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET Sound_AmbienceVolume "0.60000002384186"
SET baseMip "1"
SET groundEffectDist "70"
SET weatherDensity "0"
SET ffxGlow "0"
SET ffxDeath "0"
SET realmName "BloodWorld"
SET cameraYawMoveSpeed "180"
SET cameraYawSmoothSpeed "180"
SET cameraDistanceMaxFactor "1"
SET gameTip "60"
SET xpBarText "1"
SET playerStatusText "1"
SET partyStatusText "1"
SET targetStatusText "1"
SET uiScale "1"
SET checkAddonVersion "0"
SET autoSelfCast "1"
SET ChatMusicVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET ChatSoundVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET ChatAmbienceVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET Sound_EnableAllSound "0"
SET OutboundChatVolume "1"
SET InboundChatVolume "1"
SET VoiceActivationSensitivity "0.40000003576279"
SET gxApi "opengl"
SET M2UseShaders "0"

And... glxfgears:

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3064 frames in 5.0 seconds = 612.788 FPS

What can I change, to make my WoW playable?

gary sheppard · Post by **gary sheppard** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:25 am

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Soccus <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello. I'm running WoW 2.3.3, my wine version is wine-0.9.56.
My PC: 512 ram, Athlon 300+ and ATI radeon 600x.
Problem: 4pfs under Arch Linux and up to 12 under Ubuntu.

Drivers: Fglrx (catalyst-8.3-1)
Rendering: Yes

Code:

glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X600/X550 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.7412 Release

My xorg.conf:

Code:

Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "drm"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "pl"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600]"
Driver "fglrx"
Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "ColorTiling" "on"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
Endsection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "SyncMaster"
Option "DPMS"
Horizsync 30-70
Vertrefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600]"
Monitor "SyncMaster"
Defaultdepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
screen "Default Screen"
Inputdevice "Generic Keyboard"
Inputdevice "Configured Mouse"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
# InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disabled"
EndSection

Wine log:

Code:
[root@soc-pc soc]# wine /mnt/sdb5/wow/Wow.exe -opengl
fixme:spoolsv:serv_main (0 (nil))
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on MPU-401 UART,
disabling mixer
fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 1, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:ntdll:NtPowerInformation Unimplemented NtPowerInformation action: 11
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 0, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ed84,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ec8c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f2a8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f40c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f588,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f580,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f508,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f4f8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33efe0,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f124,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT
(5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT not
supported on protocol 4
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT
(5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT not
supported on protocol 4
fixme:reg:GetNativeSystemInfo (0x374027e4) using GetSystemInfo()
fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x728873e4) stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE;
STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE;
STUB
fixme:imm:ImmAssociateContextEx (0x20024, (nil), 16): stub
[root@soc-pc soc]#

My WoW's Config.wtf

Code:
SET locale "enUS"
SET coresDetected "1"
SET hwDetect "0"
SET gxColorBits "24"
SET gxDepthBits "24"
SET gxResolution "1280x1024"
SET gxRefresh "60"
SET gxMultisampleQuality "0.000000"
SET gxFixLag "0"
SET videoOptionsVersion "1"
SET movie "0"
SET expansionMovie "0"
SET showToolsUI "1"
SET Sound_OutputDriverName "System Default"
SET realmList "wow.bloodworld.eu"
SET SmallCull "0.070000"
SET DistCull "450.000000"
SET farclip "297"
SET particleDensity "0.900000"
SET spellEffectLevel "0"
SET textureFilteringMode "0"
SET mouseSpeed "0.5"
SET Gamma "1.000000"
SET readTOS "1"
SET readEULA "1"
SET Sound_VoiceChatInputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_VoiceChatOutputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_MasterVolume "1"
SET Sound_SFXVolume "1"
SET Sound_MusicVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET Sound_AmbienceVolume "0.60000002384186"
SET baseMip "1"
SET groundEffectDist "70"
SET weatherDensity "0"
SET ffxGlow "0"
SET ffxDeath "0"
SET realmName "BloodWorld"
SET cameraYawMoveSpeed "180"
SET cameraYawSmoothSpeed "180"
SET cameraDistanceMaxFactor "1"
SET gameTip "60"
SET xpBarText "1"
SET playerStatusText "1"
SET partyStatusText "1"
SET targetStatusText "1"
SET uiScale "1"
SET checkAddonVersion "0"
SET autoSelfCast "1"
SET ChatMusicVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET ChatSoundVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET ChatAmbienceVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET Sound_EnableAllSound "0"
SET OutboundChatVolume "1"
SET InboundChatVolume "1"
SET VoiceActivationSensitivity "0.40000003576279"
SET gxApi "opengl"
SET M2UseShaders "0"

And... glxfgears:

Code:
3064 frames in 5.0 seconds = 612.788 FPS

What can I change, to make my WoW playable?

Sorry i can not say anything about wine itself, but is there any chance

you can put another 512 ram in that system? I am reasonably sure that would
help at least a little bit. I have always found that over all WoW and other
MMO's performed more smoothly with at least 1 gig of ram. The kicker is that
linux uses ram pretty efficiently compared to windows, and so on the linux
side it should help too. Just a very very inexpensive tip to improve your
over all gaming experience sir. To be honest 2 gigs ram is really the sweet
spot, and you can find DDR2 kits all day long online for
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231098

Anyhow have a good one.
Gary
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gary sheppard · Post by **gary sheppard** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:34 am

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:24 AM, gary sheppard <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Soccus <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello. I'm running WoW 2.3.3, my wine version is wine-0.9.56.
My PC: 512 ram, Athlon 300+ and ATI radeon 600x.
Problem: 4pfs under Arch Linux and up to 12 under Ubuntu.

Drivers: Fglrx (catalyst-8.3-1)
Rendering: Yes

Code:

glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X600/X550 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.7412 Release

My xorg.conf:

Code:

Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "drm"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "pl"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600]"
Driver "fglrx"
Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "ColorTiling" "on"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
Endsection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "SyncMaster"
Option "DPMS"
Horizsync 30-70
Vertrefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600]"
Monitor "SyncMaster"
Defaultdepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864"
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
screen "Default Screen"
Inputdevice "Generic Keyboard"
Inputdevice "Configured Mouse"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
# InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disabled"
EndSection

Wine log:

Code:
[root@soc-pc soc]# wine /mnt/sdb5/wow/Wow.exe -opengl
fixme:spoolsv:serv_main (0 (nil))
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on MPU-401 UART,
disabling mixer
fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 1, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:ntdll:NtPowerInformation Unimplemented NtPowerInformation action:
11
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 0, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ed84,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ec8c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f2a8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f40c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f588,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f580,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f508,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f4f8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33efe0,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f124,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT
(5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT
not supported on protocol 4
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT
(5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT
not supported on protocol 4
fixme:reg:GetNativeSystemInfo (0x374027e4) using GetSystemInfo()
fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x728873e4) stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE;
STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE;
STUB
fixme:imm:ImmAssociateContextEx (0x20024, (nil), 16): stub
[root@soc-pc soc]#

My WoW's Config.wtf

Code:
SET locale "enUS"
SET coresDetected "1"
SET hwDetect "0"
SET gxColorBits "24"
SET gxDepthBits "24"
SET gxResolution "1280x1024"
SET gxRefresh "60"
SET gxMultisampleQuality "0.000000"
SET gxFixLag "0"
SET videoOptionsVersion "1"
SET movie "0"
SET expansionMovie "0"
SET showToolsUI "1"
SET Sound_OutputDriverName "System Default"
SET realmList "wow.bloodworld.eu"
SET SmallCull "0.070000"
SET DistCull "450.000000"
SET farclip "297"
SET particleDensity "0.900000"
SET spellEffectLevel "0"
SET textureFilteringMode "0"
SET mouseSpeed "0.5"
SET Gamma "1.000000"
SET readTOS "1"
SET readEULA "1"
SET Sound_VoiceChatInputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_VoiceChatOutputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_MasterVolume "1"
SET Sound_SFXVolume "1"
SET Sound_MusicVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET Sound_AmbienceVolume "0.60000002384186"
SET baseMip "1"
SET groundEffectDist "70"
SET weatherDensity "0"
SET ffxGlow "0"
SET ffxDeath "0"
SET realmName "BloodWorld"
SET cameraYawMoveSpeed "180"
SET cameraYawSmoothSpeed "180"
SET cameraDistanceMaxFactor "1"
SET gameTip "60"
SET xpBarText "1"
SET playerStatusText "1"
SET partyStatusText "1"
SET targetStatusText "1"
SET uiScale "1"
SET checkAddonVersion "0"
SET autoSelfCast "1"
SET ChatMusicVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET ChatSoundVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET ChatAmbienceVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET Sound_EnableAllSound "0"
SET OutboundChatVolume "1"
SET InboundChatVolume "1"
SET VoiceActivationSensitivity "0.40000003576279"
SET gxApi "opengl"
SET M2UseShaders "0"

And... glxfgears:

Code:
3064 frames in 5.0 seconds = 612.788 FPS

What can I change, to make my WoW playable?

Sorry i can not say anything about wine itself, but is there any chance
you can put another 512 ram in that system? I am reasonably sure that would
help at least a little bit. I have always found that over all WoW and other
MMO's performed more smoothly with at least 1 gig of ram. The kicker is that
linux uses ram pretty efficiently compared to windows, and so on the linux
side it should help too. Just a very very inexpensive tip to improve your
over all gaming experience sir. To be honest 2 gigs ram is really the sweet
spot, and you can find DDR2 kits all day long online for
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231098

Anyhow have a good one.
Gary

Ooops, my brain just kicked in. Does that mother board support DDR1 or DDR2?
I am betting now that i *THINK* it supprts only DDR1.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820134008

Sorry about the brain fart, I have not had my 1st cup of coffee yet

Gary
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Jim Hall · Post by **Jim Hall** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:24 pm

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM, gary sheppard <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:24 AM, gary sheppard <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Soccus <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello. I'm running WoW 2.3.3, my wine version is wine-0.9.56.
My PC: 512 ram, Athlon 300+ and ATI radeon 600x.
Problem: 4pfs under Arch Linux and up to 12 under Ubuntu.

Drivers: Fglrx (catalyst-8.3-1)
Rendering: Yes

Code:

glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X600/X550 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.7412 Release

My xorg.conf:

Code:

Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "drm"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "pl"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon
X600]"
Driver "fglrx"
Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "ColorTiling" "on"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
Endsection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "SyncMaster"
Option "DPMS"
Horizsync 30-70
Vertrefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon
X600]"
Monitor "SyncMaster"
Defaultdepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864"
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
screen "Default Screen"
Inputdevice "Generic Keyboard"
Inputdevice "Configured Mouse"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
# InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
# InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disabled"
EndSection

Wine log:

Code:
[root@soc-pc soc]# wine /mnt/sdb5/wow/Wow.exe -opengl
fixme:spoolsv:serv_main (0 (nil))
fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on MPU-401 UART,
disabling mixer
fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2
access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2
access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2
access=1
func=0 method=0)
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 1, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:ntdll:NtPowerInformation Unimplemented NtPowerInformation
action:
11
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x73c00000, 0, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ed84,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33ec8c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f2a8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f40c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f588,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f580,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f508,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f4f8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33efe0,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f124,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option
INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT
(5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT
not supported on protocol 4
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option
INTERNET_OPTION_CONNECT_TIMEOUT
(5000): STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT
not supported on protocol 4
fixme:reg:GetNativeSystemInfo (0x374027e4) using GetSystemInfo()
fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x728873e4) stub!
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE;
STUB
fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW Option INTERNET_OPTION_CONTEXT_VALUE;
STUB
fixme:imm:ImmAssociateContextEx (0x20024, (nil), 16): stub
[root@soc-pc soc]#

My WoW's Config.wtf

Code:
SET locale "enUS"
SET coresDetected "1"
SET hwDetect "0"
SET gxColorBits "24"
SET gxDepthBits "24"
SET gxResolution "1280x1024"
SET gxRefresh "60"
SET gxMultisampleQuality "0.000000"
SET gxFixLag "0"
SET videoOptionsVersion "1"
SET movie "0"
SET expansionMovie "0"
SET showToolsUI "1"
SET Sound_OutputDriverName "System Default"
SET realmList "wow.bloodworld.eu"
SET SmallCull "0.070000"
SET DistCull "450.000000"
SET farclip "297"
SET particleDensity "0.900000"
SET spellEffectLevel "0"
SET textureFilteringMode "0"
SET mouseSpeed "0.5"
SET Gamma "1.000000"
SET readTOS "1"
SET readEULA "1"
SET Sound_VoiceChatInputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_VoiceChatOutputDriverName "System Default"
SET Sound_MasterVolume "1"
SET Sound_SFXVolume "1"
SET Sound_MusicVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET Sound_AmbienceVolume "0.60000002384186"
SET baseMip "1"
SET groundEffectDist "70"
SET weatherDensity "0"
SET ffxGlow "0"
SET ffxDeath "0"
SET realmName "BloodWorld"
SET cameraYawMoveSpeed "180"
SET cameraYawSmoothSpeed "180"
SET cameraDistanceMaxFactor "1"
SET gameTip "60"
SET xpBarText "1"
SET playerStatusText "1"
SET partyStatusText "1"
SET targetStatusText "1"
SET uiScale "1"
SET checkAddonVersion "0"
SET autoSelfCast "1"
SET ChatMusicVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET ChatSoundVolume "0.40000000596046"
SET ChatAmbienceVolume "0.30000001192093"
SET Sound_EnableAllSound "0"
SET OutboundChatVolume "1"
SET InboundChatVolume "1"
SET VoiceActivationSensitivity "0.40000003576279"
SET gxApi "opengl"
SET M2UseShaders "0"

And... glxfgears:

Code:
3064 frames in 5.0 seconds = 612.788 FPS

What can I change, to make my WoW playable?

Sorry i can not say anything about wine itself, but is there any
chance
you can put another 512 ram in that system? I am reasonably sure that
would
help at least a little bit. I have always found that over all WoW and
other
MMO's performed more smoothly with at least 1 gig of ram. The kicker is
that
linux uses ram pretty efficiently compared to windows, and so on the
linux
side it should help too. Just a very very inexpensive tip to improve
your
over all gaming experience sir. To be honest 2 gigs ram is really the
sweet
spot, and you can find DDR2 kits all day long online for
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231098

Anyhow have a good one.
Gary

Ooops, my brain just kicked in. Does that mother board support DDR1 or
DDR2?
I am betting now that i *THINK* it supprts only DDR1.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820134008

Sorry about the brain fart, I have not had my 1st cup of coffee yet

Gary
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My system is an Athlon 1600 (1400 actual), 1GB RAM, nVidia 6600. I have 3
add-ons running so far. My latency averages 110 and fps averages 14-20. The
only real problem I have is a large capital city - too many other players.
Other then that it runs just fine. I have been advised by players with
multiple 70's to have 4GB of ram. That's a money issue for me (saving for
it).

This is not an actual solution for your problem but it agrees with Gary's
comment. So yes, try the RAM first.

Jim
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3vi1 · Post by **3vi1** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:47 pm

Soccus wrote:And... glxfgears:
Code: Select all
3064 frames in 5.0 seconds = 612.788 FPS
What can I change, to make my WoW playable?

Is that glxgears running at the default windows size, or is that fullscreen (and if so, at what resolution?)?.

Your system seems really underpowered for WoW. I get about 7000fps in glxgears myself (Athlon X2 4400+ w/ nVidia 7600GT) , and I would only consider my system "decent" for gaming under Wine.

bradley newton haug · Post by **bradley newton haug** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:44 pm

wow runs fine with 512M, you can get the footprint very small using game
settings (I 5 box on a 3gig system at full settings, can run 10 with texture
mem set to low). In any case It's pretty easy to tell on any system when ram
is your problem, if you aren't swapping you don't have a problem.

from a glance at your specs I'd wager it's the video card, I wouldn't expect
that card to do very well in any OS running TBC.

I get a 10 fps difference tween wine and xp on an ati 3870 but ati/amds
latest few drivers have been pretty horrible, if you have a choice try any
of the driver versions before 8.1.

what is the fps you get in xp?

Sorry i can not say anything about wine itself, but is there any
chance
you can put another 512 ram in that system? I am reasonably sure that
would
help at least a little bit. I have always found that over all WoW and
other
MMO's performed more smoothly with at least 1 gig of ram. The kicker is
that
linux uses ram pretty efficiently compared to windows, and so on the
linux
side it should help too. Just a very very inexpensive tip to improve
your
over all gaming experience sir. To be honest 2 gigs ram is really the
sweet
spot, and you can find DDR2 kits all day long online for
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231098

Anyhow have a good one.
Gary

Ooops, my brain just kicked in. Does that mother board support DDR1 or
DDR2?
I am betting now that i *THINK* it supprts only DDR1.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820134008

Sorry about the brain fart, I have not had my 1st cup of coffee yet

Gary
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bradley newton haug · Post by **bradley newton haug** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:45 pm

also,

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_an ... _with_wine

has some information and performance tips that can be applied to any linux
distro.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 9:41 AM, bradley newton haug <[email protected]>
wrote:

I just pulled all but 512 for yucks.

and... max fps 75 (vertical synced)

wow uses about 250 megs footprint out of the box. While 512 is pushing it
yes, it won't magically make a mobility chipset viable.

there are reports of some people having success running it here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475437

My system is an Athlon 1600 (1400 actual), 1GB RAM, nVidia 6600. I have
3
add-ons running so far. My latency averages 110 and fps averages 14-20.
The
only real problem I have is a large capital city - too many other
players.
Other then that it runs just fine. I have been advised by players with
multiple 70's to have 4GB of ram. That's a money issue for me (saving
for
it).

This is not an actual solution for your problem but it agrees with
Gary's
comment. So yes, try the RAM first.

Jim
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bradley newton haug · Post by **bradley newton haug** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:45 pm

I just pulled all but 512 for yucks.

and... max fps 75 (vertical synced)

wow uses about 250 megs footprint out of the box. While 512 is pushing it
yes, it won't magically make a mobility chipset viable.

there are reports of some people having success running it here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475437

My system is an Athlon 1600 (1400 actual), 1GB RAM, nVidia 6600. I have 3
add-ons running so far. My latency averages 110 and fps averages 14-20.
The
only real problem I have is a large capital city - too many other players.
Other then that it runs just fine. I have been advised by players with
multiple 70's to have 4GB of ram. That's a money issue for me (saving for
it).

This is not an actual solution for your problem but it agrees with Gary's
comment. So yes, try the RAM first.

Jim
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Soccus · Post by **Soccus** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:54 pm

Sorry for non-posting.

This glxgears score was in window.

Strange thing happend - now it's like this.

Code: Select all

glxgears = 14245 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2848.905 FPS

My resolution is 1240x1024. 60hz

By the way, I'm playing private WoW Server - About 400-500 max people online at once, so cities are not crowded as on global servers.

You say next 512 ram? Maybe this will help, but there is one funny thing. Last week I have installed a WoW to my friend on his OLD computer (128 ram, older graphic card than mine and about 900mhz processor) His Windows XP is running pretty unstable, but his WoW have about 30-40 fps. Rotlf. Game cuts only in capital cities.

I played on Windows Xp about 1 year earlier. Fps wasn't fantastic but it was playable - I guess about 30-50 fps. Of course my WoW is always set on the minium details.

gary sheppard · Post by **gary sheppard** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:28 pm

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Soccus <[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry for non-posting.

This glxgears score was in window.

Strange thing happend - now it's like this.

Code:
14245 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2848.905 FPS

My resolution is 1240x1024. 60hz

By the way, I'm playing private WoW Server - About 400-500 max people
online at once, so cities are not crowded as on global servers.

You say next 512 ram? Maybe this will help, but there is one funny thing.
Last week I have installed a WoW to my friend on his OLD computer (128 ram,
older graphic card than mine and about 900mhz processor) His Windows XP is
running pretty unstable, but his WoW have about 30-40 fps. Rotlf. Game cuts
only in capital cities.

I played on Windows Xp about 1 year earlier. Fps wasn't fantastic but it
was playable - I guess about 30-50 fps. Of course my WoW is always set on
the minium details.

Well sir, i for one would like to know how this all turns out!

Good gaming
Gary
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tparker · Post by **tparker** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:47 pm

Soccus wrote:

one funny thing. Last week I have installed a WoW to my friend on his
OLD computer (128 ram, older graphic card than mine and about 900mhz
processor) His Windows XP is running pretty unstable, but his WoW have
about 30-40 fps. Rotlf. Game cuts only in capital cities.

If his older graphics card has more memory or better drivers that could
make a big difference. We just replaced a Nvidia 7950 with an 8500
because it was supposed to be an upgrade. Took less than ten minutes to
decide to go back to the older card because it did a much better job.

I'm not sure if anything other than numbers of users logged in at once
would make a difference between private and regular WoW servers. I'm on
the regular servers in Ubuntu Dapper, Wine 0.9.57, 1g RAM, Nvidia 7600gs
(256mb). Frame rates are 50-65 regular, 20-30 in major cities, in game
video settings are at about half except draw-in distance settings at
about three-quarters. I do not strip anything out of X and usually have
at least three things running in the background (Ventrilo/Teamspeak,
Firefox, Thunderbird).

Tricia

burkey · Post by **burkey** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:47 pm

Hmm, this is a thread I am very interested in. I can get WoW to run alright on my Athlon64 (nVidia 8600GTS) but the lack of a hardware mouse is what keeps pushing me back to windows.

Framerate is probably acceptable and is quite quick in some places. How do you all put up with jerky mouse movement? Or is there a way to enable the hardware mouse? If I run in DirectX the hardware mouse works but the game is really slow, in OpenGL it runs better but no hardware mouse.

Soccus · Post by **Soccus** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:37 am

If you can't get your mouse working:
Try to set "smooth mouse" option in video options, or tripple buffering. This could help - if it's on, try to turn it off.

Anyway try WoW wine wiki too - you can find it in google. There are many tips for perfomance issues.

Anyway... I don't play games anymore - and this is place when my problem with ATI ends.

burkey · Post by **burkey** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:23 pm

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Soccus <[email protected]> wrote:

If you can't get your mouse working:
Try to set "smooth mouse" option in video options, or tripple buffering. This could help - if it's on, try to turn it off.

Anyway try WoW wine wiki too - you can find it in google. There are many tips for perfomance issues.

Sorry Soccus, I have used both options and my email was ambiguous. I
meant when running in OpenGL mode there is no option for a hardware
mouse (AFAIK). And that means the mouse only moves smoothly when your
fps is high enough (>30fps) and even then is not as smooth as a
hardware cursor

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:43 pm

Soccus wrote:What can I change, to make my WoW playable?

I didn't see it mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but did you try the stuff under "Registry Tweak. Fixes most perfomance issues" on the Application DB Page?

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... n&iId=9429

DARKGuy . · Post by **DARKGuy .** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:50 pm

It seems to be more of a WINE problem than anything else. I just
upgraded from my 4200 to a 7200GS and I have no hardware cursor option
either. I'm not complaining though I'm used to play without it, but it
would be good to have that option.

IT SEEMS TO WORK on Direct3D, but then you get the horrid "X" cursor
over your WoW cursor... but at least it's fast.

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Jim <[email protected]> wrote:

Soccus wrote:
What can I change, to make my WoW playable?
I didn't see it mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but did you try the stuff under "Registry Tweak. Fixes most perfomance issues" on the Application DB Page?

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... n&iId=9429

Soccus · Post by **Soccus** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:48 am

Jim wrote:
Soccus wrote:What can I change, to make my WoW playable?
I didn't see it mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but did you try the stuff under "Registry Tweak. Fixes most perfomance issues" on the Application DB Page?

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... n&iId=9429

Yes I tried. It seems that my graphic card sucks. I'm not playing games anymore, so nvm.

If you can't set hardware cursor in game, try set it in Config.wtf in WoW directory. You will find how this option looks in wiki. Maybe this will help.

DARKGuy . · Post by **DARKGuy .** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:55 pm

As I said, to enable hardware cursor DON'T use OpenGL (if you added
SET gxApi "opengl" to config.wtf then remove it). That way WINE will
use X.org's cursor and it will be a full speed, however, the game will
have a small-to-significant FPS loss, it depends on your specs.

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Soccus <[email protected]> wrote:

Jim wrote:

Soccus wrote:
What can I change, to make my WoW playable?

I didn't see it mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but did you try the stuff under "Registry Tweak. Fixes most perfomance issues" on the Application DB Page?

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... n&iId=9429
Yes I tried. It seems that my graphic card sucks. I'm not playing games anymore, so nvm.

If you can't set hardware cursor in game, try set it in Config.wtf in WoW directory. You will find how this option looks in wiki. Maybe this will help.