Wine registration email - system failure

[perryh]

"dimesio" <[email protected]> wrote:

... Forum moderators can edit and delete posts after they are
made, and lock threads (which only affects the forum, not the
mailing list), but there is no screening of posts beforehand.

Perhaps the forum configuration could be adjusted to limit a newly-
registered poster to one or two posts, the limitation being removed
by a moderator after observing that the initial post(s) are legitimate.

This would enable a new registrant's initial inquiry to be seen,
and perhaps responded to, without having to wait for a moderator to
approve it, while preventing the all-too-common situation in which
a newly-registered spammer is able to send out a dozen spam posts
before being banned.

[Ace...]

bugzilla seems to be directed specifically to the wine software.

I can file it here, if that is what is required?

But isn't this a job for the forum administrator - a minor change of wording?

[Ace...]

Perhaps the forum configuration could be adjusted to limit a newly-
registered poster to one or two posts, the limitation being removed
by a moderator after observing that the initial post(s) are legitimate.

This would enable a new registrant's initial inquiry to be seen,
and perhaps responded to, without having to wait for a moderator to
approve it, while preventing the all-too-common situation in which
a newly-registered spammer is able to send out a dozen spam posts
before being banned.

This does sound like a good idea.
I think 3 posts would allow: first contact, more detail, results

[dimesio]

bugzilla seems to be directed specifically to the wine software.

On the screen that asks you to "pick a product on which to file a bug" select WineHQ.org.

[Ace...]

Understood.
Thanks.

[Martin Gregorie]

On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 04:29 -0500, Ace... wrote:

perryh wrote:

Perhaps the forum configuration could be adjusted to limit a newly-
registered poster to one or two posts, the limitation being removed
by a moderator after observing that the initial post(s) are legitimate.

This would enable a new registrant's initial inquiry to be seen,
and perhaps responded to, without having to wait for a moderator to
approve it, while preventing the all-too-common situation in which
a newly-registered spammer is able to send out a dozen spam posts
before being banned.

This does sound like a good idea.
I think 3 posts would allow: first contact, more detail, results

Some of us use the mail list as our main or only access to Wine users.
It was recently explained that the forum feeds posts into the mailing
list BEFORE the moderators see them. This is a problem: the spam has
already hit the mailing list before a moderator can see or cancel it, so
the single thing that would improve our experience is to move that feed
to a post-moderation pickup point.


Martin

[dimesio]

Some of us use the mail list as our main or only access to Wine users.
It was recently explained that the forum feeds posts into the mailing
list BEFORE the moderators see them. This is a problem: the spam has
already hit the mailing list before a moderator can see or cancel it, so
the single thing that would improve our experience is to move that feed
to a post-moderation pickup point.

That would require someone to read every single new post, several times a day.

[Martin Gregorie]

On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 08:53 -0500, dimesio wrote:

Martin Gregorie wrote:

Some of us use the mail list as our main or only access to Wine users.
It was recently explained that the forum feeds posts into the mailing
list BEFORE the moderators see them. This is a problem: the spam has
already hit the mailing list before a moderator can see or cancel it, so
the single thing that would improve our experience is to move that feed
to a post-moderation pickup point.

That would require someone to read every single new post, several times a day.

Possibly my comment was badly put. What I meant was, that whatever spam
detection system is put in place, should deal equally with messages
being posted to the forum and sent to the mail list, which isn't
happening at present.

I can see two possibilities:
- use an automated spam tram along the lines that James suggests that
queues suspected spam for moderators to review and release or kill.

- Use the system Ace suggested, of queueing messages from new users for
moderators to review and release or kill. In this case two extra
controls would be nice: a 'stop reviewing this poster' button and a
'ban this poster' button.

These could both work together and need not be implemented at the same
time. Use of either would considerably reduce both spam and the
moderator workload. I, personally, would not mind if messages ended up
held in these queues for a few hours, so reviewing queued messages need
not be a particularly high priority task.


Martin

[david.hagood]

That would require someone to read every single new post, several times a
day.

What if something like DSPAM were inserted between the forum and the
mailing list - take anything suspicious and quarantine it.

Or what if you only moderate forum posters with fewer than $X successful
posts? Most of the spammers seem to follow the standard "sign up, make a
couple of BS posts, then flood."