Fedora Updates Hosed Wine

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:29 pm

So some specs ...
Fedora 10 (32bit), Wine (v1.1.15).

I installed warcraft 3 and frozen throne expansion, when I did a clean Fedora 10 install with Wine 1.1.15. Things ran well for the most part, once in awhile war3 would throw up and error just after launching, all I had to do was relaunch the program and I was good. I was using opengl.

The March 23rd some new updates came down the pipe for my system (that auto notifier that comes with Fedora 10). As I usually do I downloaded/installed them. Well Wine no longer functions. The update installed updates for ...

libX11, lcms-libs, gtk2, postgresql-libs, lcms, keepassx, xorg-x11-drv-vesa, selinux-policy, selinux-policy-targeted

So my guess is either the GTK2 or the xorg update hosed wine. The crazy thing is I can't even run "Wine Configuration" I try to launch it and nothing happens (by going to Applications, Wine, WIne Configuration). When I try to launch my war3, it acts like its loading (opens a window on the taskbar) then it disapears (I assume crashes).

I am just wondering if you have any troubleshooting suggestions? Is there a log I can check to see why war3 is crashing? Any idea why wine's own configuration won't even load?

Thanks

edgar_rice · Post by **edgar_rice** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:44 pm

Same problem here.

I just fixed it by re-installing the NVidia drivers (180.29). Wine crashed the first time through, then it worked.

If you are running the binary NVidia drivers, try re-installing.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:29 pm

Thanks,

I followed the re-install for Nvidia drivers for Fedora 10 here ...
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752

After that it worked.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:16 pm

Doh, spoke too soon, was fine right after I reinstalled the video drivers. But then I restarted for shits and it went back to not working. Same symptoms.

So its the video drivers but why would it work before the restart and not after?

Andrey Vul · Post by **Andrey Vul** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:29 pm

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 00:16, vtx <[email protected]> wrote:

Doh, spoke too soon, was fine right after I reinstalled the video drivers. But then I restarted for shits and it went back to not working. Same symptoms.

So its the video drivers but why would it work before the restart and not after?

Because the kernel used the old version of the video driver before reboot.
Unless you're going to kill X, you can't unload and reload the nvidia module.

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vtx · Post by **vtx** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:52 pm

Because the kernel used the old version of the video driver before reboot.
Unless you're going to kill X, you can't unload and reload the nvidia module.

I sort of get what you're saying but I think you didn't get the problem.

Wine didn't work, so I reloaded the video driver, then Wine worked (without reboot or killing X). Then I rebooted and I was back to Wine not working which means the video driver reload isn't sticking or something else is going on. What is strange is Wine is fixed after the video update without killing X. It doesn't work after I reboot or before I did the reload of the driver.

James Mckenzie · Post by **James Mckenzie** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:51 am

vtx <[email protected]> wrote on March 26th:
Because the kernel used the old version of the video driver before reboot.
Unless you're going to kill X, you can't unload and reload the nvidia module.[/quote]

I sort of get what you're saying but I think you didn't get the problem.

Wine didn't work, so I reloaded the video driver, then Wine worked (without reboot or killing X).
Then I rebooted and I was back to Wine not working which means the video driver reload isn't
sticking or something else is going on. What is strange is Wine is fixed after the video update
without killing X. It doesn't work after I reboot or before I did the reload of the driver.
[/quote]
I have been following this 'thread' and am wondering if the update is 'sticking'. Can you run the program that detects what version of the driver you are using before and after the upgrade and then again after rebooting? This might help. If the driver update is not taking, it is time to contact the producers of your Linux distribution for assistance.

James McKenzie

edgar_rice · Post by **edgar_rice** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:24 am

vtx: I don't know how you managed to re-install the NVidia driver without killing X, whatever it was probably wasn't good enough.

I hate to speculate on this, because my speculations are often wrong, but I suspect that something about the fedora update messed with part of the x.org configuration (since an x.org driver was part of the update), and that was enough to cause trouble. Re-installing the NVidia driver probably restores whatever got clobbered.

I use the binary nVidia driver, and to install it the x server can't be running. Ctrl-Alt-F2 is not dead enough, you need to boot to runlevel 3.

Of course, you need the binary driver if you don't have it. Get it from the nVidia site.

I have my grub.conf set to expose the grub menu (comment out the "hiddenmenu" option), and I give it 10 seconds or so for the timeout so that I have time to push buttons.

On the reboot, hit the 'a' key, which allows you to append (to the default kernel) boot options. Add " 3" (without quotes), which will boot you to runlevel 3, which is the non-graphical console. Log in as root and "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run". Respond to the various prompts. It will compile the interface to the binary and fix your configuration. Then simply reboot, which will go to runlevel 5 (normal).

This fixed it for me. I think you are in some strange state of partially fixed configuration.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:58 pm

Thanks for the follow ups. Yea I guess I should explain how I am defining re-loading the video driver. I was removing the current video driver packages via the GUI menu in Gnome, then running ...

su
rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fed ... noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/ ... noarch.rpm
yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i386 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64
reboot

After I did those steps Wine would work. I did try awhile ago to get the drivers directly from Nvidia but I was getting some dependancy error (don't remember specifically). I'll try the specific directions posted and report back.

Thanks for the help

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:29 pm

Thanks for all the help, with your suggestions problem is fixed.

I followed your directions for loading the new Nvidia driver that way edgar_rice, worked like a charm. When I booted back in X everything worked.

/me stares at the 12 pending updates to Fedora wondering if they're gonna hose me again.

Thanks everyone!

edgar_rice · Post by **edgar_rice** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:38 pm

Glad that worked out for you.

One last thing - once you install your video driver this way, you have to maintain it manually. Every time you load a new kernel, you have to re-install it. Not a big deal, since you have to reboot for a new kernel anyway, you just need to remember.