Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
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Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
Hello,
This is my first post here, so please forgive me if a get some terms wrong!
I want to be able to use Linux applications to open files from within a windows application running under wine. Here's why,
I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 and wine 0.9.61 using Synaptic. I have installed a very old PIM called infocentral that was originally created by Corel and which I have been using for the last 25 years or so. It allows you to create objects and links between objects within a database that is totally flexible.
One of the things you can do is to connect files to people, ie a letter that you have sent to that person. When you double click that fie, Infocentral should open the appropriate application, say word, or excel or other.
Now, this being a Linux box, I don't have Microsoft office installed, so I thought I'll create registry entries to point to the OO equivalent found in the Linux directories, ie /usr/bin/oocalc etc.
I created and entry for .xls in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT with the Data of Spreadsheet. I then created a key called Spreadsheet, subkey shell, subkey open with the command /usr/bin/oocalc %1.
This works up to a point,
- when I click on a file in Infocentral (running under wine), oocalc now attempts to open and tries to open the file. The problem is that the name of the file is not passed to OO correctly, the %1 parameter should pass the names of the file to OO, it does but it is corrupted. it shows as,
Z:/home/hilary/infocentraldata/myfiles/filename.xls.
OO shows an error message and then stops.
Obviously for Linux the Z:/ at the front is causing some trouble (I think). I also note that if there are spaces in the names of the directories or files this causes a problem, but this I can fix.
- if I leave off the %1 parameter from the registry open command, oocalc opens with no problem but into a blank file.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Hilary
This is my first post here, so please forgive me if a get some terms wrong!
I want to be able to use Linux applications to open files from within a windows application running under wine. Here's why,
I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 and wine 0.9.61 using Synaptic. I have installed a very old PIM called infocentral that was originally created by Corel and which I have been using for the last 25 years or so. It allows you to create objects and links between objects within a database that is totally flexible.
One of the things you can do is to connect files to people, ie a letter that you have sent to that person. When you double click that fie, Infocentral should open the appropriate application, say word, or excel or other.
Now, this being a Linux box, I don't have Microsoft office installed, so I thought I'll create registry entries to point to the OO equivalent found in the Linux directories, ie /usr/bin/oocalc etc.
I created and entry for .xls in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT with the Data of Spreadsheet. I then created a key called Spreadsheet, subkey shell, subkey open with the command /usr/bin/oocalc %1.
This works up to a point,
- when I click on a file in Infocentral (running under wine), oocalc now attempts to open and tries to open the file. The problem is that the name of the file is not passed to OO correctly, the %1 parameter should pass the names of the file to OO, it does but it is corrupted. it shows as,
Z:/home/hilary/infocentraldata/myfiles/filename.xls.
OO shows an error message and then stops.
Obviously for Linux the Z:/ at the front is causing some trouble (I think). I also note that if there are spaces in the names of the directories or files this causes a problem, but this I can fix.
- if I leave off the %1 parameter from the registry open command, oocalc opens with no problem but into a blank file.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Hilary
Re: Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
You need a small shell script that remaps windows path into unix path. Wine has a special program for that - 'winepath'.dreamstogo wrote:I created and entry for .xls in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT with the Data of Spreadsheet. I then created a key called Spreadsheet, subkey shell, subkey open with the command /usr/bin/oocalc %1.
This works up to a point,
- when I click on a file in Infocentral (running under wine), oocalc now attempts to open and tries to open the file. The problem is that the name of the file is not passed to OO correctly, the %1 parameter should pass the names of the file to OO, it does but it is corrupted. it shows as,
Z:/home/hilary/infocentraldata/myfiles/filename.xls.
OO shows an error message and then stops.
Obviously for Linux the Z:/ at the front is causing some trouble (I think). I also note that if there are spaces in the names of the directories or files this causes a problem, but this I can fix.
- if I leave off the %1 parameter from the registry open command, oocalc opens with no problem but into a blank file.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Hilary
Here is an example of how this script might look like run_prog:
Code: Select all
#!/bin/sh
$1 "`wine winepath -u "$2"`"
Code: Select all
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xcelfile\Shell\Open\command]
@="/bin/sh run_prog /usr/bin/oocalc "%1""
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:31 AM, dreamstogo <[email protected]> wrote:
The examples are pretty weak, could somebody improve them?
See http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-6a4666a ... dbb4aba694I created and entry for .xls in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT with the Data of Spreadsheet. I then created a key called Spreadsheet, subkey shell, subkey open with the command /usr/bin/oocalc %1.
This works up to a point,
- when I click on a file in Infocentral (running under wine), oocalc now attempts to open and tries to open the file. The problem is that the name of the file is not passed to OO correctly, the %1 parameter should pass the names of the file to OO, it does but it is corrupted. it shows as,
Z:/home/hilary/infocentraldata/myfiles/filename.xls.
OO shows an error message and then stops.
The examples are pretty weak, could somebody improve them?
Re: Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
You can use an example from my previous post.Dan Kegel wrote:On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:31 AM, dreamstogo <[email protected]> wrote:See http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-6a4666a ... dbb4aba694I created and entry for .xls in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT with the Data of Spreadsheet. I then created a key called Spreadsheet, subkey shell, subkey open with the command /usr/bin/oocalc %1.
This works up to a point,
- when I click on a file in Infocentral (running under wine), oocalc now attempts to open and tries to open the file. The problem is that the name of the file is not passed to OO correctly, the %1 parameter should pass the names of the file to OO, it does but it is corrupted. it shows as,
Z:/home/hilary/infocentraldata/myfiles/filename.xls.
OO shows an error message and then stops.
The examples are pretty weak, could somebody improve them?
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:00 AM, vitamin <[email protected]> wrote:
Done (as soon as I saw it). It could probably still use some work.You can use an example from my previous post.See http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-6a4666a ... dbb4aba694
The examples are pretty weak, could somebody improve them?
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Thank you vitamin and Dan Kegel.
Here's what I had to do to get this working from within Infocentral.
I created the run_prog as per the code from vitamin. I made it executable.
I added a key to [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.xls] with data as "xcelfile"
I added the key [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xcelfile\Shell\Open\command]
/usr/bin/run_prog /usr/bin/oocalc "%1"
Note that the command is slightly different from that posted by vitamin. I don't know why, but it works. Now when I click on an excel file in Infocentral, oocalc opens the spreadsheet correctly.
- I didn't need the /bin/sh
- I did need to fully qualify the run_prog path.
- I didn't need the \"%1\", I just needed "%1"
This has also solved my spaces in path names issue - the "" I suppose.
Now I need to create entries for .doc files etc.
Thank you very much for your excellent help and speed of reply.
Best wishes
Hilary
Here's what I had to do to get this working from within Infocentral.
I created the run_prog as per the code from vitamin. I made it executable.
I added a key to [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.xls] with data as "xcelfile"
I added the key [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xcelfile\Shell\Open\command]
/usr/bin/run_prog /usr/bin/oocalc "%1"
Note that the command is slightly different from that posted by vitamin. I don't know why, but it works. Now when I click on an excel file in Infocentral, oocalc opens the spreadsheet correctly.
- I didn't need the /bin/sh
- I did need to fully qualify the run_prog path.
- I didn't need the \"%1\", I just needed "%1"
This has also solved my spaces in path names issue - the "" I suppose.
Now I need to create entries for .doc files etc.
Thank you very much for your excellent help and speed of reply.
Best wishes
Hilary
What I posted was a contents of the .reg file. You can't write "blah"foo"" in the regfile - all extra double quotes have to be escaped.dreamstogo wrote:Thank you vitamin and Dan Kegel.
Here's what I had to do to get this working from within Infocentral.
I created the run_prog as per the code from vitamin. I made it executable.
I added a key to [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.xls] with data as "xcelfile"
I added the key [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\xcelfile\Shell\Open\command]
/usr/bin/run_prog /usr/bin/oocalc "%1"
Note that the command is slightly different from that posted by vitamin. I don't know why, but it works. Now when I click on an excel file in Infocentral, oocalc opens the spreadsheet correctly.
- I didn't need the /bin/sh
- I did need to fully qualify the run_prog path.
- I didn't need the "%1", I just needed "%1"
This has also solved my spaces in path names issue - the "" I suppose.
Now I need to create entries for .doc files etc.
Thank you very much for your excellent help and speed of reply.
Best wishes
Hilary
Using /bin/sh will work on _ALL_ *NIXes. You can put "run_prog" anywhere on your $PATH. Hard-coding the location of "run_prog" will work for you only.
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While I read the FAQ on this, I didn't understand its importance. The subject is something I've been wondering about but didn't understand. If Wine is to be used for more than playing games, the users will have to be able to link between the Windows applications running under Wine and the native Linux applications.
What are you talking about? Are you implying that all windows programs some how magically will understand UNIX paths? And some how all UNIX programs will some how can use file paths inside Wine's space?DRNewcomb wrote:While I read the FAQ on this, I didn't understand its importance. The subject is something I've been wondering about but didn't understand. If Wine is to be used for more than playing games, the users will have to be able to link between the Windows applications running under Wine and the native Linux applications.
Spit whatever you are smocking, take a deep breath and repeat your question.
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:16 PM, vitamin <[email protected]> wrote:
Jeez vitamin, chill out...DRNewcomb wrote:What are you talking about? Are you implying that all windows programs some how magically will understand UNIX paths? And some how all UNIX programs will some how can use file paths inside Wine's space?While I read the FAQ on this, I didn't understand its importance. The subject is something I've been wondering about but didn't understand. If Wine is to be used for more than playing games, the users will have to be able to link between the Windows applications running under Wine and the native Linux applications.
Spit whatever you are smocking, take a deep breath and repeat your question.
Re: Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
I'm perfectly cool. I did not understood a single part about what was he talking about. He is welcome to spell the actual questions, problems, suggestions, etc. Making some blatant statements didn't told me anything.austin987 wrote:On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:16 PM, vitamin <[email protected]> wrote:Jeez vitamin, chill out...DRNewcomb wrote:What are you talking about? Are you implying that all windows programs some how magically will understand UNIX paths? And some how all UNIX programs will some how can use file paths inside Wine's space?While I read the FAQ on this, I didn't understand its importance. The subject is something I've been wondering about but didn't understand. If Wine is to be used for more than playing games, the users will have to be able to link between the Windows applications running under Wine and the native Linux applications.
Spit whatever you are smocking, take a deep breath and repeat your question.
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 06:47:27PM -0500, vitamin wrote:
That's not good nettiquette.
-- hendrik
But you said it in a rude, insulting way, driving him off.austin987 wrote:I'm perfectly cool. I did not understood a single part about what wasOn Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:16 PM, vitamin <[email protected]> wrote:
Jeez vitamin, chill out...DRNewcomb wrote:
What are you talking about? Are you implying that all windows programs some how magically will understand UNIX paths? And some how all UNIX programs will some how can use file paths inside Wine's space?
Spit whatever you are smocking, take a deep breath and repeat your question.
he talking about. He is welcome to spell the actual questions,
problems, suggestions, etc. Making some blatant statements didn't told
me anything.
That's not good nettiquette.
-- hendrik
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 05:20:08PM -0500, DRNewcomb wrote:
answer myself, or I'd tell you. Perhaps someone else can explain what I
cannot?
I'd *suspect* that to access the simulated Windows environment, you's
use function in the Wine library, but to access the Linux environment,
you'd use Linux libraries. What you have to do for functions that exist
in both, I don't know.
-- hendrik
I'm sorry you hit such a rude answer. I'm also sorry I don't know theI think I'll just take the subject elsewhere.
answer myself, or I'd tell you. Perhaps someone else can explain what I
cannot?
I'd *suspect* that to access the simulated Windows environment, you's
use function in the Wine library, but to access the Linux environment,
you'd use Linux libraries. What you have to do for functions that exist
in both, I don't know.
-- hendrik
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
2008/5/14 vitamin <[email protected]>:
information but in the way you state it - and you appear to be utterly
unaware (a) that you're doing this (b) that it's a problem.
- d.
You're incredibly bloody rude and obnoxious - not in your factualI'm perfectly cool.
information but in the way you state it - and you appear to be utterly
unaware (a) that you're doing this (b) that it's a problem.
- d.
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:56 AM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
does it often with a really bad attitude, as if he's being forced
against his will to do tech support for total idiots. I have asked
him many times to tone down his attitude, but it seems he can't.
What do people think? Is Vitamin doing more harm than good?
- Dan
Indeed. Vitamin is very well informed and gives good advice, but he2008/5/14 vitamin <[email protected]>:
You're incredibly bloody rude and obnoxious - not in your factualI'm perfectly cool.
information but in the way you state it - and you appear to be utterly
unaware (a) that you're doing this (b) that it's a problem.
does it often with a really bad attitude, as if he's being forced
against his will to do tech support for total idiots. I have asked
him many times to tone down his attitude, but it seems he can't.
What do people think? Is Vitamin doing more harm than good?
- Dan
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Re: Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
Well, he helped me solve my original problem before the flames started, for which I thanked him. So that was good. Since then I've stayed away...Dan Kegel wrote:
What do people think? Is Vitamin doing more harm than good?
- Dan
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Dan Kegel <[email protected]> wrote:
forum/mailing list & irc channel. He's very well informed, but as
we're all aware, needs to calm his attitude down, especially on
wine-users.
-Austin
I get the feeling he's scared more than a few users away from theIndeed. Vitamin is very well informed and gives good advice, but he
does it often with a really bad attitude, as if he's being forced
against his will to do tech support for total idiots. I have asked
him many times to tone down his attitude, but it seems he can't.
What do people think? Is Vitamin doing more harm than good?
- Dan
forum/mailing list & irc channel. He's very well informed, but as
we're all aware, needs to calm his attitude down, especially on
wine-users.
-Austin
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:03:10 -0500
"Austin English" <[email protected]> wrote:
I think he is doing a good job. Show me one case where he shows a bad attitude in response to a well-written, precise and sane question.
Perhaps there should be a small quiz when you want to register at the forums or mailinglists, asking very basic wine questions, to ensure everyone did read the FAQ
--
Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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"Austin English" <[email protected]> wrote:
I can understand when he gets a bit angry from time to time, with all this people asking the same moronic questions over and over again.On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Dan Kegel <[email protected]> wrote:I get the feeling he's scared more than a few users away from theIndeed. Vitamin is very well informed and gives good advice, but he
does it often with a really bad attitude, as if he's being forced
against his will to do tech support for total idiots. I have asked
him many times to tone down his attitude, but it seems he can't.
What do people think? Is Vitamin doing more harm than good?
- Dan
forum/mailing list & irc channel. He's very well informed, but as
we're all aware, needs to calm his attitude down, especially on
wine-users.
I think he is doing a good job. Show me one case where he shows a bad attitude in response to a well-written, precise and sane question.
Perhaps there should be a small quiz when you want to register at the forums or mailinglists, asking very basic wine questions, to ensure everyone did read the FAQ
--
Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>
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to list as well
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From: David Gerard <[email protected]>
Date: 2008/5/14
Subject: Re: [Wine] Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
To: "Marcel W. Wysocki" <[email protected]>
2008/5/14 Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>:
They're different questions when they come from different people
having the same problem.
Users are not developers. Wine is getting users who don't understand
how to bring up a command prompt. I don't think having someone there
with the specific job of driving them away is likely to help the
project.
- d.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Gerard <[email protected]>
Date: 2008/5/14
Subject: Re: [Wine] Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
To: "Marcel W. Wysocki" <[email protected]>
2008/5/14 Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]>:
all this people asking the same moronic questions over and over again.I can understand when he gets a bit angry from time to time, with
They're different questions when they come from different people
having the same problem.
bad attitude in response to a well-written, precise and sane question.I think he is doing a good job. Show me one case where he shows a
Users are not developers. Wine is getting users who don't understand
how to bring up a command prompt. I don't think having someone there
with the specific job of driving them away is likely to help the
project.
- d.
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 06:13:20PM +0200, Marcel W. Wysocki wrote:
DRNewcomb wrote:
: While I read the FAQ on this, I didn't understand its importance. The
: subject is something I've been wondering about but didn't understand.
: If Wine is to be used for more than playing games, the users will have
: to be able to link between the Windows applications running under Wine
: and the native Linux applications.
This does not seem to be an unreasonable question. DRNewcomb even
indicates that he has read the FAQ, and goes on to express a reasonable
concern. There may be technical and policy reasone for doing or not
doing what he wants, but his request is a sane one, especially because
Wine Is a library, Not an Emulator.
But vitamin replied:
: What are you talking about? Are you implying that all windows programs
: some how magically will understand UNIX paths? And some how all UNIX
: programs will some how can use file paths inside Wine's space?
: Spit whatever you are smocking, take a deep breath and repeat your
: question.
The entire reply shows an unnecessarily aggressive attitude, and where
he ways, "Spit whatever you are smocking", he really crosses the line
into overt offensiveness. Whatever his intention, he has succeeded in
convincing DRNewcomb that he is not welcome here.
An answer to the question might have explained how the Wine and Linux
file-name spaces are, or can be made to be, related to one another.
-- hendrik
In this very thread.On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:03:10 -0500
"Austin English" <[email protected]> wrote:
I can understand when he gets a bit angry from time to time, with all this people asking the same moronic questions over and over again.On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Dan Kegel <[email protected]> wrote:I get the feeling he's scared more than a few users away from theIndeed. Vitamin is very well informed and gives good advice, but he
does it often with a really bad attitude, as if he's being forced
against his will to do tech support for total idiots. I have asked
him many times to tone down his attitude, but it seems he can't.
What do people think? Is Vitamin doing more harm than good?
- Dan
forum/mailing list & irc channel. He's very well informed, but as
we're all aware, needs to calm his attitude down, especially on
wine-users.
I think he is doing a good job. Show me one case where he shows a bad
attitude in response to a well-written, precise and sane question.
DRNewcomb wrote:
: While I read the FAQ on this, I didn't understand its importance. The
: subject is something I've been wondering about but didn't understand.
: If Wine is to be used for more than playing games, the users will have
: to be able to link between the Windows applications running under Wine
: and the native Linux applications.
This does not seem to be an unreasonable question. DRNewcomb even
indicates that he has read the FAQ, and goes on to express a reasonable
concern. There may be technical and policy reasone for doing or not
doing what he wants, but his request is a sane one, especially because
Wine Is a library, Not an Emulator.
But vitamin replied:
: What are you talking about? Are you implying that all windows programs
: some how magically will understand UNIX paths? And some how all UNIX
: programs will some how can use file paths inside Wine's space?
: Spit whatever you are smocking, take a deep breath and repeat your
: question.
The entire reply shows an unnecessarily aggressive attitude, and where
he ways, "Spit whatever you are smocking", he really crosses the line
into overt offensiveness. Whatever his intention, he has succeeded in
convincing DRNewcomb that he is not welcome here.
An answer to the question might have explained how the Wine and Linux
file-name spaces are, or can be made to be, related to one another.
DRNewcomb evidently did read the FAQ, and found it unsufficent.Perhaps there should be a small quiz when you want to register at the
forums or mailinglists, asking very basic wine questions, to ensure
everyone did read the FAQ
-- hendrik
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Marcel W. Wysocki <[email protected]> wrote:
then takes it out on the poor newbie user.
a new Wine user who knows nothing and has not read the FAQ,
he reacts in a way that makes many users feel bad, and
scares some away. There's no point in kicking a puppy.
Much better to calmly update the FAQ to be even more obvious,
and post a link to it, to see if the user can in fact help themselves
via the FAQ.
least add text on the 'new post' form like this:
Are you having trouble getting started with Wine?
Please check the FAQ before asking for help!
and make it link to the FAQ. Heck, we don't even have a
sticky saying "Please check the FAQ first"!
- Dan
Absolutely. Anybody would. The only problem is that heI can understand when he gets a bit angry from time to time,
with all this people asking the same moronic questions over and over again.
then takes it out on the poor newbie user.
That's not the problem! The problem is when confronted withShow me one case where he shows a bad attitude in
response to a well-written, precise and sane question.
a new Wine user who knows nothing and has not read the FAQ,
he reacts in a way that makes many users feel bad, and
scares some away. There's no point in kicking a puppy.
Much better to calmly update the FAQ to be even more obvious,
and post a link to it, to see if the user can in fact help themselves
via the FAQ.
We've all wished for that! It's not practical, but we could atPerhaps there should be a small quiz when you want to
register at the forums or mailinglists, asking very basic
wine questions, to ensure everyone did read the FAQ
least add text on the 'new post' form like this:
Are you having trouble getting started with Wine?
Please check the FAQ before asking for help!
and make it link to the FAQ. Heck, we don't even have a
sticky saying "Please check the FAQ first"!
- Dan
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My last post on this subject,
I own up to be being a complete newbie concerning wine, but not on Linux or windows. I did do a search for my problem before posting but I didn't find what I was looking for. Hence my original post. Which was answered very well by vitamin.
The problem with any type of search or FAQ is that you need to know what you are looking for first. You need to type the "correct" search terms in order to find what you are looking for. If you're lucky you get a hit. If you're not, you're stuck.
So tolerance and good manners are the key.
I own up to be being a complete newbie concerning wine, but not on Linux or windows. I did do a search for my problem before posting but I didn't find what I was looking for. Hence my original post. Which was answered very well by vitamin.
The problem with any type of search or FAQ is that you need to know what you are looking for first. You need to type the "correct" search terms in order to find what you are looking for. If you're lucky you get a hit. If you're not, you're stuck.
So tolerance and good manners are the key.
Starting a Linux application for a windows file in wine
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:49 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
so hopefully the next user with this question will find
it in the FAQ.
And I scurried behind the conversation and improved the FAQ,DRNewcomb evidently did read the FAQ, and found it unsufficent.Perhaps there should be a small quiz when you want to register at the
forums or mailinglists, asking very basic wine questions, to ensure
everyone did read the FAQ
so hopefully the next user with this question will find
it in the FAQ.